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January 18th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Not a disease. …
Not a disease. Anyone who thinks so is just trying to be PC or shove off personal responsability and consequences onto others.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Bullshit….You say …
Bullshit….You say that there are alcoholics that were once severe alcoholics, are no longer once they reach a certain age…? Do you speak from experience..? i do, and I know many people that have gone years without drinking and relapsed and there right back from where they left off…Until you spend some time with alcoholics or are one then you shouldn’t really spew “facts”that aren’t really facts…also, im not arguing wether or not it’s a disease..im still undecided.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
In the AA Big book, …
In the AA Big book, in the section called “the Doctor’s Opinion” compulsive drinking is described as the manifestation of an allergy. Today, the newer term “sensitization” might be used. To be sure, there is a point where certain people can no longer drink alcohol safely (allergy), but incredibly,they still have an obsession to do so. That is the problem. AA calls it an illness of the body, mind and spirit. I agree.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Characterizing …
Characterizing addiction as a brain disease misappropriates language more properly used to describe conditions such as multiple sclerosis or schizophrenia—afflictions that are neither brought on by sufferers themselves nor modifiable by their desire to be well. Also, the brain disease rhetoric is fatalistic, implying that users can never fully free themselves of their drug or alcohol problems.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
BULLSHIT – Give us …
BULLSHIT – Give us page or article form AMA. Also while you are at it tell us the authors of your claim – my guess is they are AA front groups like NCADD.
Please cite page number in DSM-IV for your disease claim. I know you can’t and it is about time other people know it to.
Now I see where you have been lurking. Don’t you ever get tired of telling the same old lies?
January 18th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
To call it a …
To call it a disease is outright dishonest. Interesting that this whole disease ideal comes from a program that claims “rigorous honesty”.
I guess that makes them hypocrites?
January 18th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
NO IT IS NOT A …
NO IT IS NOT A DISEASE I hate drunks, my old man is an alcoholic who has lost 2 homes that we lived in and continues to drink like theres no tomorrow because he doesnt give a about anything but how he’s going to get his next fix of booze,he can barely walk any more and I’m sick of watching this shit,I’m gonna snap.I busted my arm so bad one time the only thing keeping it together was the flesh,fucker actually stopped to get booze before we went to the hospital
January 18th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Yes, I do see your …
Yes, I do see your point, and these things are debated endlessly. AA believes that alcoholism is a life-long condition. Once you have become a real alcoholic, you will never be able to drink alcohol safely again.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Yeah, but you see …
Yeah, but you see my point right. I’m working with technicality here. An addiction can be overcome at any time “technically” with an uncurable disease, people don’t have that luxury.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
The American …
The American Medical Assn calls alcoholism a disease. So does the World Health Organization. Alcoholics Anonymous calls it “a seemingly impossible condition of mind and body”
Any way you call it, it’s nasty business – argueably Americas’ biggest health problem.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Lack of self …
Lack of self control is not an illness. And addiction as far as I know is not classified as an illness.
January 18th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Without question, …
Without question, alcoholism is an illness. In the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous the word “disease” is not used, and AA does not take a position on the definition and is concerned ONLY with recovery from the condition. Without question, the condition is progressive. For an explanation of a “real alcoholic”, read the Big Book, pages 21-25.