15
February
Alcoholism Is Not a Disease
An interview with Dr. Stanton Peele. Produced and directed by Patrick and Andrea Bergin. Copyright First Vision Productions 2003.
Duration : 0:1:22
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February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
i agree with the …
i agree with the poster “boy”.beer is good,crack and else is junkie’s stuff. i like beer and i drink it every day,it has not given me any shit…
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Dude what I meant …
Dude what I meant by that is in the begining it was based on these principles…it has no ties with any religions or cults, most of my friends in the program are athiests in fact.
Each persons’ program is individual and you are certainly not obligated to practice any religion, that is the truth.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@enriquehoja
” …
@enriquehoja
“According to these definitions, multiple causation (bio/psycho/social) does not rule out the classification of anything (alcoholism or or other addiction, behavioral pathology such as OCD, etc.) as a disease”
The point you are missing is that their has to be a DISEASE ENTITY (physiopathological) present for a health anomaly to qualify for a disease classification…
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@enriquehoja
” …
@enriquehoja
“Don’t genetic as well as environmental factors play a role in obesity?”
No…
Only behavioural factors play a causal role in obesity…
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@neb22
“there are …
@neb22
“there are no religious ties or practices despite it being based on some “religious” principles”
At last!!!
A stepper that tells at least SOME truth!!!
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
I came into the AA …
I came into the AA 6 months ago and it’s really helped turn my life around and given me the support I need to recover from my addiction.
Howvere it only works if you are umble and completely honest with yourself AAANNNNND there are no religious ties or practices despite it being based on some “religious” principles.
@Hammersley1967 : I have no shame or public disgrace now because I’m SOBER…if I was drinking I would most definately be avoiding all my responsibilities an disgracing myself.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@empee74
…
@empee74
Actually it is mandatory in many situations, court, detox, treatment centers. Its been forced upon myself and others and I believe that it is incredibly dangerouse to ones recovery to identify oneself as an addict once one stops using drugs,
peace out man be well
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
This guy loves …
This guy loves being in front of a camera an expert for all to see, alot of Ego here I think.”Morethanenough” your living in a world of your own if you don’t know what your talking about don’t get involved or are you a scientist or something doh!!!
Dip$hit!!
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Oops I meant human …
Oops I meant human beings not Han beings. Wish u all well in your journeys
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Really why should …
Really why should we as han beings berate one another I mean cmon live an let live folks . AA members shouldn’t be evangelical about the program so why attack them? If ya have a bad taste in your mouth from AA then do it your way. whatever works is good. Peace my fellow sapiens
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@empee74
HOW DARE …
@empee74
HOW DARE YOU!!! (kind sir…)
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
True.
It was a …
True.
It was a stupid question to begin with..lol.
Responsability…now THATS whats missing in the world.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
What does it matter …
What does it matter people Jesus!! If it works and you have half a brain then great if it doesn’t than try something else! Nothing in AA IS MANDATORY! you people crack me up debating this shit.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@Morethanenough1
” …
@Morethanenough1
“What kind of loosers have to convince themselves that an addiction is a disease? Why? Bc they can’t accept the guilt? Or the responsability?”
SHORT ANSWER = AA LOSERS
Why?
Not because they can’t accept the guilt or responsibility, but because they can’t accept the public disgrace and consequent shame…
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@empee74
“As long …
@empee74
“As long as an alcoholic realizes that their is something greater than him or herself”
And there we have it…
Why does this “higher power” have to be “greater than him or herself”…
Surely all that is required is that the higher power is greater than one’s addiction?
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
@SinisterUnicorn
” …
@SinisterUnicorn
“One can only work the steps if one subscribes to a specific God.”
Yes, that’s right…
One can only “work the steps” (in an orthodox AA mode) if one subscribes to a belief in a Abrahamic God-head.
This is the elephant in the corner that is so inanely brushed over by AA rhetoric…
However, some (ex) members, such as yours truly, work the steps in an unorthodox manner that involves a convoluted series of mental gymnastics that leaves “the” program ultimately unrecognisable.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
What kind of …
What kind of loosers have to convince themselves that an addiction is a disease? Why? Bc they can’t accept the guilt? Or the responsability? lol…get a life ppl! Drinking is no more a disease than watching too much t.v. or spending too much time on you tube!
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
sorry
dnt read …
sorry
dnt read this(cuzit really wrks). u will gt kissed on the nearest frieday by the love of ur life. 2mara wll b the bstday of ur life hwever if you dnt post ths comment 2 atleast 3 vids u will die withn 2 days nw uv startd readn this dnt stp this is so scary snd ths ovr 2 5 vids in 143 mins when ur done press f6 nd ur crush’s name wll appear on the screen nbig letters ths is so scary cuz it actually wrks ths really wrks
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
No I was replying …
No I was replying to you for sure. And again I’ll say that anyone can work the steps and believe in whatever or however many gods or non gods they wish. It’s really a waste of my time to reply further. As long as an alcoholic realizes that their is something greater than him or herself is all that is asked. And that is still only a suggestion! There are NO requirements in AA. really I could care less because I’m still seeking a higher power myself, it’s a life long journey.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Your exceedingly …
Your exceedingly verbose comments (which curiously addressed me without being a reply to me – perhaps a way to prevent my response?) continue to refer to a single God (so polytheism is apparently out), and you did not address my assertion that the Big Book’s God is described as omnipotent and interventionist (excluding deism) as well as benevolent (excluding pantheism) and communicative (again, excluding pantheism and deism). One can only work the steps if one subscribes to a specific God.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
when Bill WIlson …
when Bill WIlson described ‘an alcoholic’ he was describing himself
was he really decribing ‘an alcoholic’, or was he describing a Narcissisist who drank too much (ie himself) and extrapolating the definition to everyone else, whether it fit or not (just like a Narcissist would?)
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
what alcoholism is, …
what alcoholism is, is just a very bad habit
ciggarette smoking is even more addictive, yet, when ordinary people quit smoking in the 1960s, they didnt ‘admit they were powerless’ and work 12 steps (even though it really WAS killing them), they just QUIT
might have taken more than one try
but then they just forgot about it
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
I have never known …
I have never known anything like the obsession to drink. It was all-consuming. Will power did NOTHING for me, I had to get help.
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
YEs, Alcoholism Is …
YEs, Alcoholism Is a Disease
February 15th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Another thing, a ” …
Another thing, a “disorder” seems to be where we throw everything whose causation is undefined or unknown. Let’s face it, with our current knowledge or genetics and the human brain, you can’t argue that alcoholism is any less or more of a disease than other addictions (substance or behavioral, e.g. alcoholism (disease) vs. drug and eating problems (disorder). Don’t genetic as well as environmental factors play a role in obesity?