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February
Re: I left AA and I Didn’t Die
I found life after leaving AA to be better, not worse. The scare tactics that AA and other 12-step groups use to reatain their members are all lies.
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Tags: alcoholics, anonymous, atheist, atheists, brainwashing, control, cult, cults, dogma, God, higher, lies, mind, power, superstition
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
I realised alot …
I realised alot when I saw, and heard, someone who was normally the holiest of the holy inside those doors on his cell phone talking to his “normal” people. He, and others like him, pretty much used the people there to get cheap labor and for self worship.
I do believe there are alot of people there that are good guys, but those greedy bleeding deacons…
Like I said, it’s a good place to get away for an hour to meditate but I get more relief from working out in a gym.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
Why is it that you …
Why is it that you continue to use the word cult to describe AA, when by definition what you anti AA junkies seem to describe is the exact same thing. Trying to coerce people to believe that you are right!
AA has done for many people something they couldnt do, STOP DRINKING!!!!
You guys are all to me drug addicts who use AA as a place to come when NA wont have you because they know what we know, Your all full of crap and self rightous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
The program works …
The program works if you stop drinking so much. People who have worked the Steps hundreds of times over “relapse” all the time. Why? Because they’ve swallowed the Kool-Aid about the “disease” myth, which, once believed, becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. The false myth of a “disease” is a VIRAL MEMETIC INFECTION.
I’ve been clean and sober for 12 years in NA, and only recently have experienced the same epiphany this man describes. He’s right. It’s a cult!
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
it’s not a cult per …
it’s not a cult per say. when i stopped going it was because of work issues. no one hounded me. i still call members & call them my friends. i still appreciate the help in those 1st couple of years. i was glad a.a. was there 4 me. i understand what u mean by challenging the program ideology. /a.a. & christianity clashes abit. i found the christian faith & can thank a.a. 4 getting me there. peace
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
AA works for ME! …
AA works for ME! Whether it will work for everyone I can’t say. I have stayed sober for 91/2 years and am very happy. Over the years I have seen people leave AA, some return, some don’t. If people have found other ways to stay sober I am happy for them. I have never claimed that AA is the only way to stay sober, AA is the method that works for me. It is a free country, stay sober any way you choose. I won’t criticize you or attempt to change your beliefs. I am content with what I am doing.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
you’re a simpleton, …
you’re a simpleton, not a clever person as you think you are.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
u don’t need a …
u don’t need a program. you need to want sobriety and to grow up.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
If you went to …
If you went to meetings again you would probably change your mind again.just face it, your a gullible person.the program works if you work it.Thats Fact.Ive acheived abstinance from drugs for over a year now, fact.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
Please visit …
Please visit exposeaa.webs. We are looking for people who have been forced to participate in the 12 step cult by employers and courts. We are also looking for individuals who have been denied an organ transplant for failing to participate in the AA cult. Please tell your story. Together we can change things.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
mojobkk: I’d …
mojobkk: I’d encourage you to look up where that quote “contempt prior to investigation” comes from. It was not coined in reference to investigation of a spiritualist group. In fact AA publishes nothing that’s quantifiable so a comparative investigation between AA and other approaches cannot be made.
Another reason I would not have chosen that quote, which I’m not sure why you used, is this man spent 10 years within the rooms of AA. Now, so what’s wrong with contempt AFTER investigation?
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
It is interesting …
It is interesting to listen to a guy who is a contemptuous as he is. Complaining in a theoretical manner about a spiritual program while exhibiting no clear understanding of what AA really does/is, is further proof that contempt prior to true investigation will keep a man in everlasting ignorance.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
aa cant help u if u …
aa cant help u if u are a thinking man.the absurd notion that u are powerless unless u follow their dogma is nonsensical
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
ridiculous remark. …
ridiculous remark. get a new insult book
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
Another puerile …
Another puerile insult.
Try being shallow. You dont do profound.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
Ooooooooooooh, …
Ooooooooooooh, nooooooo my GOD, if you do not go to meetings, get a sponsor and do the steps you will absolutly, no doubt about it relapes. That is because you are now a member of the Black Pather and like Malcum X, he stop using heroin when he joined the Black Mouslems. Hey, what the that just as any good other reason. At least I am driving the nazis INSANE. Ur right I haven’t heard anything new,since my 1st meeting.When it becomes a treatment protocol it becomes pseudoscience.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
AA is free.
If …
AA is free.
If anyone needs to learn to drink in moderation, it’s you!
Bad grammar and typos are one thing… You make absolutely NO SENSE.
I think we have wasted enough space on Godlesspanther’s thread.
If you have any other “pearls of wisdom” to share with me, you know where to find me.
Yo.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
I will say one more …
I will say one more thing that YOU sir are must learn to drink in moferation! But in AA if they fail to do that in your cult land THEN you need to demand your money back! Later >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
I will say you are …
I will say you are the one that is messed up! LATER!
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
We must resume this …
We must resume this later on, got to down stairs and get some more liq. BUT I will not forget you evil comments! You sir are a BAFOON!
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
“ANYONE reading …
“ANYONE reading these threads can see, in no uncertain terms, that you accused me of refering you to a video that ‘SOMEONE ELSE CREATED’
You were proved wrong, correct?”
Guilty as charged YoYo…
I can’t believe that that is the only point you have scored so far…
Misreading a comment! Wowee!!!
You gonna move onto typos next YoYo?
Meanwhile, your utter annihilation on this and the other thread continues…
As I said…
Lightweight…
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
HOW dare you! you …
HOW dare you! you shame your self!
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
ANYONE reading …
ANYONE reading these threads can see, in no uncertain terms, that you accused me of refering you to a video that “SOMEONE ELSE CREATED”
You were proved wrong, correct?
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
BECAUSE YOU! are …
BECAUSE YOU! are wasted. (DRUNK?) (HIGH?) Drugs or alco. will mess up people’s level of compr. GET SOME HELP (((((DUDE))))))
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
Maybe if you could …
Maybe if you could form a coherent sentence, I would respond.
I honestly have NO IDEA what you are saying.
February 12th, 2010 at 5:37 am
LEGION12!
LEGION12!