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10 reasons to leave the cult alcoholics anonymous
10 reasons to leave the cult alcoholics anonymous
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March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
AA got me off of …
AA got me off of drugs , booze, and tobacco.
been sober 14 years.
AA also made me very honest and god centered.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
I now more then 10 …
I now more then 10 reasons to start drinking, somehow i feel i’m better off being a sober drunk…………….(might has something to do with honesty ?)
And yes not everything about aa is joyfull, but my life as active drunk was not so great either…..alternatives ? name them cause any help for the alcoholic is good.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Your not a REAL …
Your not a REAL alcoholic.ever heard that one. LOL
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
yep AA is full of …
yep AA is full of crap and controversy and stuff that don’t make sense, just like the rest of the world and it aint right for everyone but i went and was able to stop drinking and for that i am trully grateful
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
I still do not …
I still do not understand why people obssesively post about a fellowship that they dont like.
Get over it and find a method that works for you .AA dose not have the monopoly on quitting alcohol.
It is plainly obvious that all the obseessive posters that appear here week after week claiming they know things about people they havent met and being abusive are nurturing some resentment towards AA and its members.
These films are repetetive and help no one .
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Too true bobby. Id …
Too true bobby. Id be all ears too. N answers here just a few stone throwers.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Some AAs have a …
Some AAs have a fukd up answer for everything. Not all though. Ive heard this comment directed at a lot of returning members, designed to instill malcontent.
There are fools in AA just like there are fools in the pub. It would be wrong of me to expect perfection in AA. Good that it worked out for you.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
The funny thing is, …
The funny thing is, there are some people in AA who are pretty smart, in that they are doctors, lawyers, etc. For the most part though, in my experience, AA attracts simple-minded people. There are smart people, but usually you got dumbasses. The fact that AA could have doctors and lawyers and more intelligent people stick around though reflects on the power of its cultism. I don’t think of those people as stupid. I think of them as victims. Many have no lives and want AA recognition.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
I don’t see why an …
I don’t see why an ex-alcoholic needs support to stay sober after 10 or 20 years. That’s the problem with AA. It perpetuates this idea that alcoholics are “different” from others, even in their normal lives when they’ve been sober for many years. It’s utter bullshit. And they perpetuate helplessness. That’s why you got guys in AA talking about how they need “support” when they’ve been sober for 20 years. Give me a break already.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
The problem with AA …
The problem with AA is that it perpetuates an “us” and “them” mentality. I’ve been sober for 3 years. For almost the entire first year I went to AA. I hadn’t gone to a meeting in like 6 months and then out of the blue, I decided to just check one out for oldtimes sake. I mentioned that I hadn’t gone for 6 months and immediately, some guy told me I was doing the “dry drunk thing.” And yep, it confirmed why I don’t go to meetings. Haven’t been to one in 2 years and haven’t drank.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
this is some funny …
this is some funny shit, ever since I seen this video A.A. has been more enjoyable The guy is right if you don’t want to make yourself available to any person of any walk of life in our communities who would look for some help And the help is free and available anytime a paid worker in a clinic wouldn’t get down like that
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
this has got to be …
this has got to be my favorite video of all time i watch it over and over again the sponcer full of part is my favorite i laugh every time
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
get a new book, …
get a new book, dix345
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
AA saved my life …
AA saved my life you stupid fuck, i had to wake up in the hospital with a 5.4 blood alcohol content. DONT LISTEN TO THIS GARBAGE
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
And that’s the …
And that’s the answer I knew you’d give. You are not interested in talking about solutions in sobriety but sniveling about a program of recovery you don’t like. How insecure is that?
Bottom Line. Many credit AA for their sobriety, and nothing can ever take that away. AA Works for some. Second bottom line: AA is usually the ONLY game in town for live fellowship.
Instead of sniveling like a baby, start a SMART Recovery group. Do something productive instead of just tearing down.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
The alternativwes …
The alternativwes are well known. I presume that you can read.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Get a set of nuts.
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Get a set of nuts.
AA has its Nazis who use the program to vent their control issues, but I have ways of overcoming that. I challenge all who don’t like AA to offer some alternative for those like me who desire live fellowship.
If not AA, then what? I want to be around people working to live well in sobriety. it, if you’ve got an alternative support group in the 17033 Zip, I am all ears.
If not, then oh well. AA remains the only game in town.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Nice chatting TheYo …
Nice chatting TheYo. You’re welcome for the chat and thank you also. And yes it’s easy to get sucked into name calling and the like. Kudos and peace.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Well, I’m glad to …
Well, I’m glad to see that there are some anti AA people that can have a civil conversation with a pro AA person. LOL.
Thank you for that, Mr.
Most of the time it disolves into a bicker fest. Both sides are guilty of it, including myself.
Just nice to hear both points of view attacking the subject matter and not each other.
Peace
Yo.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Yes it says to run …
Yes it says to run from alcoholics anonymous and it says it doesn’t work. That’s been my experience. Again, I’m glad you had a better experience.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
The video says, “AA …
The video says, “AA doesn’t work!”
The message of the video to me is saying, “We don’t discourage anyone with a drinking problem to seek help… As long as it isn’t AA.”
It goes on to say that AA, “Pollutes your mind with bullshit.”
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Also, the video’s …
Also, the video’s final message is “explore your options.” It does say specifically not to be discouraged by a drinking problem. There are options out there. So to me a positive message is conveyed.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
I think one issue …
I think one issue is that people who leave AA are often angry because they’ve been told to shut up too long. They’re terrified they will drink if they leave, and they’ve been told they will drink if they leave. Some of them have been told this many times. The better the hinges on the AA door stay oiled, the less intolerance there will be. I feel sure of it. But, as an example look at herb’s comment below. It implies that if one doesn’t go to AA one will drink–that is a lie.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Okay, MrJackshuman. …
Okay, MrJackshuman.
See, I don’t have a problem with someone like you. You can carry on a conversation without calling me a brainwashed sheep, or a mindless AA zombie.
The reason I comment on videos like this? All they do is bash AA. Why not post alternatives to achieving lasting sobriety? I agree with you, AA is not for everyone, but it does work for many many people.
Anyone can simply walk out of a meeting. The door is unlocked and no one will stop you from leaving.
March 1st, 2010 at 3:56 pm
The meetings you go …
The meetings you go to apparently are different from one’s I’ve attended–you do get pressured in my experience, and pressured into dogma, not what the steps state. It makes no sense for me to attend. I gain nothing. You can go and I hope you gain something. It’s not for everyone. At the meetings I attended, the members did try to force things on you. As far as I know, the 0% says that you can get sober by another method (and might be better off). AA 5% recovery is the same as going alone.